The plug : Topull or not to pull?

[Bane]

When my and Bryan first got the idea of kydor it must of been 2 years ago. We talked through all the stuff we wanted to do, storylines plots, game rules, npcs, types of characters... and a few months after that we began work. I was 16, bry was 17? i was just finishing up school, begining college etc.

Since there was only two of us working on it, it certainly took its time to make, and at times we became overwhlemed by the ammount of work yet to do, and at times we threw in the towel, only to pick it up again later with a surge of inspiration.

Eventually, it became that we where so close to finishing, and with my plans to go into the army in march, i had 6 months of time to make something of kydor before i got on with my life in the real world.

I wasn't expecting to get a job, and my mom was going tro put up with me, so long as i made kydor, so she could finally play on it

Well... we got kydor up, things started good...
i was 17 now, bry 18, maybe even 19.. and he was allready involved with his real life.. full time job, he wanted to be out socialising more... but nor did he want to let me down... but hey! i said, i got the free time to keep things running, you jyust need to pop in when you can, that will be good enough for me... so he stuck with it.

Well, things didnt go as neatly as i planned... money was tight, and i'd sat on my arse for 2 years playing the computer... truth be told i was sick of having no money, never seeing my friends..and yeah my mom could play kydor but with bills coming out our ears... well, i got the oppertunity for a fully paid full time job, that would get me by til i join the army and i went for it.

being a Head dm for kydor is a full time job... and i simply cant.. wont juggle 2 full time jobs.. the little free time i do get i dont want to be filled with responsibilities and constantly giving my attention to players.

I decided, as DS kept asking me too.. to make him a dm, there was now two dms, Spooky and DS who had power to help the in-game bugs, reset the server... using the dm forums (or so i hoped) to keep me informed of whatw as going on, what needed doing etc... well i got nothing in the way ofm organised messages and requests, simply a few things dropped by on msn, 'oh can we have tradeskills'

You cant expect anything from me if thats all i have to work with... on the spot msn messages on a loose and wide topic...

Well i hope you at least can see where i am coming from, The server is up for those who want to play, and costing me, bry ad the host money... if its not wanted or not working. then lets be done with it...

[Boomer]

Alright, about time i posted, here's my say on everything:

Myself and Bane started Kydor years ago, more if you add on the time it underwent various name, plots, geographical changes, and so forth. There was no way that we were going to host a server / world we weren't happy with, or felt we were ready to run, so we never did.

We would be hard at work for many months, then it would die down and fade away, until we suddenly we would launch into top gear again and pour days, weeks and months into it once more. Always we decided never to host it until we were sure it was ready.

Finally, with the coming of NWN2, we decided to pull together the last strings and put Kydor up as it was - and i have to admit, i - personally - was not happy with it, as much as i wanted to see the dream come true, i felt we hadn't enough areas at all to run a server that would survive more than a few months. Sure, we knew it would be popular in the start, but due to past experiences we never would allow another to work with us on it, only myself, Bane and the host will ever - i beleive - receive a copy of the module. So, with only two head DM's, two builders and the fact we need to work to put food on the table and whatnot, that was us spread well-thin, and with only what? 1-2 starting dungeon areas, i couldnt see how we could have a working module that would be capable of standing on its own legs, as the amount of work and pace required would be, litterally, impossible to keep, in my opinion - even if we were not working.

Now that i'm done explaining the situation, i'll make a few replies:

DS, i am under the impression that you were told - in full - what the circumstances were, that my presence and Bane's would be sorely limited, and that should you need any changes to the module, or imports, etc, all you needed to do was ask. But - and i also beleive this was made clear - the module would still belong to myself and Bane, if you wanted to work with it, you could, and you accepted - everything was made clear, and you accepted it.

I have every right to play where i wish - which i haven't being too much of, anyway. My time is taken up by real life responsibilities. I feel i have been in this single frame of my life for alot of years now, infront of this screen, and so i finally decided i wouldn't let it run my life any longer, and i made a selfish decision to leave the project to Bane - after discussing pulling the plug for some time. I would never force him, too, but i dont think i ever beleived in my heart Kydor would take off with the lack of time me and Bane had for it - the nail was hammered deeper when i learned Bane had a job, it was going to be impossible for Kydor to survive.

I can relate to the amount of responsibility on your shoulders, aswell as Spookys, DS. But we didn't show you paradise and give you hell, you were shown and told how things would be, and you accepted them.

Its not fair, i know, few things in life are. Not fair how i work for almost 12 hours to be welcomed home by a half dozen messages on MSN relating to Kydor. But i wouldn't flip a lid, people have reason to be mad, i wouldnt try and deny yous of that - simple fact is i no longer have the time to help running this server and will not have a mental break-down in attempting to do so.

I'm training to be a hairdresser, i do alot of training, and as alot of you probably know it requires alot of socialing. I need to keep an active social life, to meet people, to learn things and know whos who, if i ever want to succeed. So i put that before Kydor - and beleive me, it doesn't make me happy. I've often thought about just finding some dead-end job to pay the bills, aslong as it just gave me the time i wanted to work on the computer and do what needed to be done, but... ::Shrugs:: Lots of angle, i want a family, which will require a proper career, i want to see the world and whatnot - yup, i'm losing track, but its all relevant, in my opinion.

Kydor wasn't exactly holding me back, the computer in general was, so its been low on my list of priorities now adays.

The most i can say is that i'm sorry that i let you all down, as i did the same to myself - Kydor was more my dream and Bane's than anyone elses, to lose it - if we do - wont be taken lightly by either, but we gave it what we could, and im glad we at least got a chance to see how successful it could have been.

Unfortunately - although i'll never tell Bane not to - my voice will always be that Kydor dies when Bane and myself are no longer around, i dont wish to see it passed on to any else, and to see it 'destroyed' by others forcing their ideas into it. It was our 'baby' and will remain so.

[decius]

hey,
sorry about the previous post, i just felt it was a shame the server was not being worked on very much and more people were leaving than joining.

i was hoping to get more involved (as a player) since the world seems really well thought out and the areas really well designed (best detail level i ever saw on a pw) but now i guess i won't.

i didn't mean that you should just give the project away, i meant you should get more people onboard to share the burden of running it.

anyhoo i think the future for nwn is bleak since nwn 2 is due out this year so perhaps giving nwn2 a shot later is the best route.

good luck which ever way you choose.

[Crap_House]

Wow..only 3 votes after how many days now..? three? Where is everyone?

[Bane]

Its looking like pulling the plug will be what we do. but not til we get some more feedback.

[patheon]

This is maen talking , I seriously think that your server...areas and story etc are amazing, only one other server compares to it . But I admit it does suck that there aren't many people and I also understand how hard it must be for you guys to get on and stuff :S

I agree with like pulling the plug till nwn2 , I mean it would suck A LOT but it would be easier for you guys.....OH and if you do then come play another server with...mwah

[Distortedshadow]

You dont -need- more feedback. Just drop it, its costing you money.

[Bane]

We are closing Kydor down for the above reasons. Its a shame things didnt work out, but im sure something will happen untill nwn2. I still would like to play nwn in my free time but not to stress myself out running a server.. Luckily, Red, whom played here for a short while, and the Creator of a server in which Kydor was very much inspired by... has Relaunched the 3rd installment of his game-world. and is now up and running for people to play.

If you wish a more Roleplay intensive server, and are sad Kydor is going down... Then do check it out. I will be playing there myself.

heum.proboards79.com/index.cgi

[Ukko]

HI Guys
Well glad the server box was of use - forget about the money owed - i will stand that for ya - just this once mind - eh eh .. farewell Kydor -
The server space is going to re-main - so anyone with a mod out there that needs a host - give me a shout and we'll work something out -
ukko out